“You cannot use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to discriminate.” - Madonna
I saw this picture and it really peeved me off. So many people are believing this lie that God isn’t against homosexuality, but He truly is. He HATES ALL SIN… homosexuality is a sin. Say whatever you will to try and prove that God is silent on the matter, but The Bible is God breathed, God inspired and therefore perfect.
His word (the Bible) has examples in the New and Old Testament of it’s stance on being against homosexuality.
First book in the Bible (Genesis) God shows His heart towards the matter in Chapter 19, Sodom and Gomorrah. Basically, the town Sodom and Gomorrah was filled with people acting on their fleshly impulses… majority of it came from homosexual relations. VERSE 5 of Genesis 19 “They shouted to Lot, “Where are the men who came to spend the night with you? Bring them out to us so we can have sex with them!” ( Lot was related to Abraham and the two them mentioned in this verse is actually two angels).. the end of this story is God completely wiping out this city because of how gross the people were. Read it… proof number one that God is not in favor of this lifestyle.
In the third book of the Bible, again.. God’s stance against homosexuality. Leviticus 18:22 ” Do not practice homosexuality, having sex with another man as with a woman. It is a detestable sin” This whole chapter in Leviticus is about Forbidden sexual practices. I know many say well that was the Old Testament and we are freed from the laws of the Old Testament… well the God of the Old Testament is the same one as in the New Testament. He never changes sides, He never changes period.
In the New Testament, Romans 1:18-32 talks about the penalty of homosexuality.
1 Corinthians 6:9
1 Timothy 1:9-10
and many many more verses…
Sorry if I seem angry, but people shouldn’t spread this false hope when God’s word says No to homosexuality. God hates sin and the sinner, but He is able to love us because of the blood of Jesus on the cross cleansed us and we able to become His children.
I love crazy Christian people, they’re so cute with their crazy beliefs. They think spewing hateful things is okay because they belief the weirdest things. It’s actually kind of amusing, in a disgusting kind of way.
Okay man, you wanted to do this, tumblr user myhipsterheart, so let’s do this.
First of all the Bible is not God breathed, it was written by the hands of men to chronicle the word of God. Men are not God, men are not perfect, so the Bible is not perfect. For example, there are tons of different interpretations, translations and beliefs in varying bibles. The Mormon Bible, The East Orthodox Bible, and the Protestant Bible are all different, for example. Different. I have a copy of the King James version, but not the modern one. Mine was published in 1960, before the ‘official’ New King James version. Genesis 19 : 5 says, in mine, “And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them.”
Now I want to bring to your attention that in my Bible, there is five pages dedicated to words that may be misleading, because the people who published this, knew that shit can be mistranslated.
There is a common argument and debate over this passage in the Genesis whether or not it is condemning homosexuality, and most people have found that even if it is, it contradicts other text in the Bible! God wiped out the two cities because they were full of a lot more than homosexuality. Lot was afraid of his daughters being raped or corrupted, people stole, people killed other people, there was prostitution and they rejected God and his teachings.
Now let me give you some history on the Bible here, and the gospels, and these guys Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. They were only a handful of a couple hundred or so people that claimed to have chronicled the word of God and the life and times of Jesus Christ. There were tons of gospels, and even today they are digging new people up that have pages written about Jesus buried with them. No, not from Bibles, these corpses were found long before the Bible was put together. Okay well, not necessarily true, but at that time the Bible was this ridiculous mix of a bunch of different contradicting stories, and considering these were some early days of Christianity, churches of Christ were kind of all over the place in their teachings.
So this guy, Emperor Constantine revised the Bible after becoming a Christian himself. He knew it was all pretty ridiculous and figured how could people ever work together in this Religion and for the good of the Empire when nothing in the Bible was working together itself? So he got a bunch of Heads of Churches together, tossed the bible on the table, and said hey, let’s see what works if we mix and match. And I’m going to throw in there the fact that he made that Bible something that would appeal to Pagans AND Christian beliefs, even though they are very different religions. So, step 1 into how the Bible is NOT perfect. Step 2 is that the New King James was published in the 1970’s, with obvious further changes. That’s over three hundred years of time to change.
Alright, moving on.
Leviticus 18 : 22, oh we meet again.
Okay, remember the Pagan thing? And you know how like, Christians don’t really like Pagans all that much and consider them ‘devil worshippers’ or what nonsense?
Okay, so interpretation one of this verse, which is a popular acceptance by a wide number of Theologists is that the lines pertaining to homosexuality are actually referring to Pagan worship, and it goes more so against the second commandment than homosexuality being a sin. This includes 20 : 13.
Interpretation two, is also commonly accepted, because guess what and, you might not believe this but people have actually misread the old hebrew?! oh no way…whoa….whoa….people misread it whoa that’s never happened before has it? The line can be changed to “And with a man, thou shalt not lie in the beds of women”, pretty much stating if you’re going to bump uglies with another man, don’t do it in a girl’s bed cause that’s pretty grody.
Mentioning Romans is just ridiculous because the Gentiles are literally doing what they’re doing because they think they’re better than God and can do whatever they want, and that is really pissing Him off. God is described as a wrathful, jealous being who demands devotion from humanity, and seeing the Gentiles trade his word of ‘Truth’ to worship creation is really getting his goat. The homosexuality here is purposeful. They are doing it to make God mad, because they are going against nature. Now, this is interpreted so that the Gentiles are straight men, and their natural desire is to be with women, but they’re sleeping with one another to SPITE God. It’s not saying homosexuality is unnatural, because the natural desire of homosexuals is to be with the same sex. They are doing the unnatural by sleeping with a sex they don’t prefer and God is mad because he knows they’re doing it just because they think they’re better than him, and can resist their natural urges.
In I Cor 6 : 9, the jewish words here that I assume you’re referring to for ‘Effeminate’ and ‘Abusers of themselves with mankind’ are mistranslated again because back when Jesus Christ was walking around, the word that was translated into Effeminate didn’t indicate homosexuality, like, ever. I mean we’re talking back when Gay meant happy and was rarely used to indicate homosexuals. The same goes for ‘malakoi’. When it mattered, when the Bible was chronicled, it didn’t mean Gay. Now the next phrase that’s used actually has five meanings that are preferred over homosexual which include rape, anal with one’s WIFE, sex with angels, and masturbation. There’s not mention of guys x guys in here.
I’m not going into other versus because I think I’ve proven myself plenty in how ridiculous you are.
And the original message of this post was that Jesus never said anything against homosexuality. And he hasn’t. In fact, there’s a verse involving a roman who asks Jesus to heal his gay lover, and Jesus does it. Shit, Jesus could’ve said no just based on the fact this guy didn’t believe in God, but he healed his lover all the same, because Jesus was A GOOD GUY who believed in LOVE and RESPECT FOR OTHERS IN ALL OF HUMANITY. He did not condemn homosexuality.
Now I’m not saying you have to stop believing what you want, go for it, but you have no right to tell people how to read their own Bible, you have no right to tell people what God believes or what God thinks because you are NOT God, you are NOT Jesus Christ and all you have is a book written by the hands of MEN that has been adapted and badly mistranslated over the years that it has been written to try and hold your argument. So you can not judge a person’s lifestyle or their religion.
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Oh yes, totally. Because religion is always the EXACT SAME for everybody. You can’t just tell someone “if you are -this religion- you need to act like -this religion-” because religion is an EXTREMELY PERSONAL thing. You can’t go around insulting someone’s religious practices or lack thereof just because you think they need to “act more -this religion-“.
Anon, do you have a religion? If you do, would you want me to go up and ask you “are you SUREEE you’re part of that religion? You don’t ACT like it”. If you don’t have a religion, would you like it if I went up to you and said “Huh, you DON’T have a religion? Well you should ACT like you don’t have a religion. The way you’re acting is making me think you actually do have one.”
By asking if someone is “EVEN -this religion-” you’re insulting something extremely close to their heart.
No one person practices their religion in the same way another person practices their religion and by suggesting someone needs to act a certain way in order to be an “ACTUAL” part of that religion… is very insulting.
I’ve reblogged this 6 times since Thursday, I really love this picture
After going viral on Reddit’s ‘Funny’ section for being odd-looking with facial hair, the girl above gave the following graceful and fresh response:
“Hey, guys. This is Balpreet Kaur, the girl from the picture. I actually didn’t know about this until one of my friends told on facebook. If the OP wanted a picture, they could have just asked and I could have smiled :) However, I’m not embarrased or even humiliated by the attention [negative and positve] that this picture is getting because, it’s who I am. Yes, I’m a baptized Sikh woman with facial hair. Yes, I realize that my gender is often confused and I look different than most women. However, baptized Sikhs believe in the sacredness of this body - it is a gift that has been given to us by the Divine Being [which is genderless, actually] and, must keep it intact as a submission to the divine will. Just as a child doesn’t reject the gift of his/her parents, Sikhs do not reject the body that has been given to us. By crying ‘mine, mine’ and changing this body-tool, we are essentially living in ego and creating a seperateness between ourselves and the divinity within us. By transcending societal views of beauty, I believe that I can focus more on my actions. My attitude and thoughts and actions have more value in them than my body because I recognize that this body is just going to become ash in the end, so why fuss about it? When I die, no one is going to remember what I looked like, heck, my kids will forget my voice, and slowly, all physical memory will fade away. However, my impact and legacy will remain: and, by not focusing on the physical beauty, I have time to cultivate those inner virtues and hopefully, focus my life on creating change and progress for this world in any way I can. So, to me, my face isn’t important but the smile and the happiness that lie behind the face are. :-) So, if anyone sees me at OSU, please come up and say hello. I appreciate all of the comments here, both positive and less positive because I’ve gotten a better understanding of myself and others from this. Also, the yoga pants are quite comfortable and the Better Together tshirt is actually from Interfaith Youth Core, an organization that focuses on storytelling and engagement between different faiths. :) I hope this explains everything a bit more, and I apologize for causing such confusion and uttering anything that hurt anyone.”
Really disgusted by all the hate those Redditors heaped on this woman. Equally floored by her pure awesomeness in the face of that noise. You go girl, you rock!
So I went to Church today, and I found this pamphlet, thinking it would be anti gay or something
But then I opened it and
Religion, you’re doing it right
the commentary on this was excellent :}
If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.
Nice try, Colbert.
Leviticus was written approximately 1400 years before Jesus’ birth.
Nice try, artemispotter.
Old Testament =/= New Testament. Seriously. Also, Leviticus also commands you to learn the Torah, which, if you’re getting Old and New confused, you clearly haven’t.
Not to mention the other ridiculous laws in Leviticus (and Deuteronomy, as well), including the following:
- No mixing of different types of fabric
- No having sex with a woman on her period
- Curse your mother or father? You must be killed
- Disabled people cannot worship God
- Stubborn children should be stoned.
So…. still want to argue how valid the OT is?
Also, in the Bible!=Jesus said it, anyway. Even in the NT, there are a lot of people who aren’t Jesus giving their opinions.
Only if the words are in red (in many translations) does it mean that Jesus said it.
FWIW, the apostle Paul and I would not have been friends. Mortal enemies is more like it.
Hey, guys, remember that one time when Jesus declared Levitican law irrelevant?
The former regulation is set aside because it was weak and useless(for the law made nothing perfect), and a better hope is introduced, by which we draw near to God.
Having been Jewish for, you know, ever, I am endlessly amused at the Christian Right’s reliance on Leviticus. Even I, who didn’t understand the theological difference between Catholics and Protestants until I took a course on Christianity in college, knew that Jesus was totes anti-Leviticus.
Ugh thank you. Fellow Christian here. I’ve literally NEVER understood this logic. “hey guys let’s pick one arbitrary part of leviticus to harp on and ignore the fact that 99% of the new testament explicitly tells us the old covenants/laws no longer hold true”
I love it when self-professed “Christians” don’t know the ABSOLUTELY MOST SIMPLE basics of the difference between the Old and New Testament. If you are against gay marriage because of Leviticus, you should also keep kosher and be against tattoos. Otherwise you’re just another FLAMING HYPOCRITE.
THIS ENTIRE POST IS EVERYTHING.
I should probably show this to my parents. Lol…
(anon please) Have any of you actually took the time to read your bible?
Let’s go over the basics
According to the bible, you must be killed if you are a gay man (Leviticus 18:23)
According to the bible, any child who curses or hit’s their parents must die. (Exodus 21:15). (Exodus 21:17, Leviticus 20:9) (Deuteronomy 21:18-21)
What’s next? Slavery? Yeah. (Deuteronomy 20:12-14)
And no. This isn’t false. If you think I’m lying, look up the bible verses and the context it’s used in.
I’m sick of people shoving this garbage down my throat as if this will make me a better person. I’m not “hating” on the Christian faith. I just look at the faith in it’s entirety, which is a bunch of hateful messages that people sift through to find a better meaning.
Jesus was pretty much anti-Leviticus, and if I’m not mistaken, all those other passages are from the old testament (Christians live by the new testament).